tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post5300550073813222755..comments2023-10-23T07:10:34.771-06:00Comments on Way Harsh: Here is a post that will win me no friends. That's okay.Yummy Biscuitshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304890882951553452noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post-27521943976208015502009-01-14T08:25:00.000-07:002009-01-14T08:25:00.000-07:00One more thing. I love a good rare piece of steak,...One more thing. I love a good rare piece of steak, and Sea Kittens is just stupid!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178737973585191754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post-83447822669305628862009-01-14T08:24:00.000-07:002009-01-14T08:24:00.000-07:00Max, I realize (I think)where you were going with ...Max, I realize (I think)where you were going with this and I am back. My argument is along the same lines as A.'s and I will add a little more. I feel abortions are a choice no one has the right to make but the one making that choice. Women have been getting pregnant forever and abortions will not stop no matter who is against them. There are a myriad of reasons for abortions and while I may not agree with all of them, I would not want to see a young girl going into an alley with someone with a coat hanger, or pouring lye in their vagina to abort a baby that they are unable or unwilling to have. Your argument about aborting someone who may find the cure for cancer, is valid in it's own way, but on the other hand what if the fetus aborted were a Gary Ridgeway, or a Hitler? It is a game of roulette and we have no right to force someone to choose.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178737973585191754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post-55009343054598453262009-01-06T08:01:00.000-07:002009-01-06T08:01:00.000-07:00As Peter says, Beethoven did not have syphilis, bu...As Peter says, Beethoven did not have syphilis, but that in itself doesn't destroy your argument.<BR/><BR/>1. Did Obama say he was pro-abortion, or is someone putting words in his mouth? I don't know, he's not going to be my president. But there is a considerable difference between legally allowing abortions and being pro-abortion, or if you prefer, being pro-abortion does not necessarily mean favouring abortion as a means of birth control.<BR/><BR/>2. I have never held a candle-light vigil for anyone on death row, but I'm not in favour of the death penalty. I don't like abortion any more than the death penalty but I do acknowledge that an embryo or foetus is not a separate being from the mother. It cannot exist without the mother and as such, while it is at this stage, it is part of the mother, and is wholly dependent on the mother for its life functions. You are not comparing like with like. I have had several miscarriages. Each time I was devastated to lose the baby but I did not mourn it in the way I would have, if it had gone to term, still less than if it had lived for a time, even still less than if it had grown to develop a personality. <BR/><BR/>3. You cannot argue the hypothetical chances of the aborted foetus possibly having gone on to become the next Beethoven. You might just as well argue that the mother forced to give birth might have lost an opportunity to go on the become the next Marie Curie. How many of those have we lost? Did anyone count the number of women who were denied the chance of a shining career, who might have found a cure for Alzheimer's disease, who might even have devised a contraceptive device for men? <BR/><BR/>Before you address the problem of abortion, and it is a problem, you must address the problem of effective and medically accurate contraception for all, and I mean all. Very few fourteen year-old girls have either the emotional or physical maturity to cope with giving birth. You must be absolutely sure that everyone who needs contraception can get it, and knows exactly how to use it. That includes people who might not have the same viewpoint as yourself. Whether you like it or not, unmarried people do have sex and unless they know how and have the means to prevent it, they are going to to have unwanted pregnancies. Abstinence is not enough of an answer. In extreme Islamic countries where failure to observe abstinence is punishable by death from stoning, unwanted pregnancy still happens. <BR/><BR/>Most unfortunately, babies to some mean despair. Sad but true. I don't like abortion, it troubles me deeply, but I am not ever going to be in favour of banning it. If you have never felt the despair of being pregnant when you don't want to be, you have no right to make the decision for others. You might like to read the poem "Christmas Carols" by Margaret Atwood.<BR/><BR/>I have read a scientific study that those who have a desire to punish, favour the death penalty and oppose abortion. Why is that? Opposing abortion more often than not will punish a woman.<BR/><BR/>Abortion remains illegal in Northern Ireland so those that can afford to, will travel to the UK, while those that cannot are liable to reach for the knitting needle. You use some incredibly emotive language here. Please save some of it for the mothers who are despairing enough to feel they need to go through with an abortion, whether they eventually have one or not, whether legal or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post-47151875484722003982009-01-06T06:04:00.000-07:002009-01-06T06:04:00.000-07:00i guess i don't think it's not okay to eat animals...i guess i don't think it's not okay to eat animals anonymous. i like meat. and i like cake. too bad there is no meat cake. (sorry max)...<BR/><BR/>smiles, bee<BR/>xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoEmpress Bee (of the high sea)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08300140506585000934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2769568444177853839.post-61936434104379801512009-01-06T04:07:00.000-07:002009-01-06T04:07:00.000-07:00Hello "Relax Max", or "Way Harsh", or whoever (soo...Hello "Relax Max", or "Way Harsh", or whoever (soooooo confusing, these blogs). It's Peter in Australia here, Beethoven lover and, by coincidence, a vegan who loves and respects all life, from animals to trees to plants to people (and that includes unborn babies). Just to let you know that your compassion and understanding are exactly what the world needs, and to encourage you to continue to take your courageous stand, one which, as you say, is unlikely to win you friends. But the unborn of the world, in their millions, salute you. Their hearts beat because of you and your deep empathy for the beauty of life. Having said that, you'll be surprised to learn that Beethoven's mother was not syphilitic, and he was not the 7th child in the family, and all the other furphies which have become an urban myth the whole world has swallowed. Beethoven was not born with syphilis, and he could certainly have married. Indeed, he tried unsuccessfully to marry many times, often falling in love, although generally to inappropriate (i.e. married) girls. And the loss of his hearing did not occur until he was around 30, and anyway, was occasioned by excessive lead in the waters and the drinking vessels of early 19th century Vienna, not by any ailment which would mean he was aborted today. But your argument that we may well be murdering, before their births, outstanding individuals capable of healing and transforming humanity, is a most compelling one, and, coupled with your intrinsic love and compassion, sends exactly the right signals out to a hostile and unfeeling world. Have you ever considered the possibility of going vegan!!!???<BR/><BR/>Lots of love, Peter Byrne, Melbourne, AustraliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com